[Grace-core] Minutes of Teleconference 15-16.06.2015

[James Noble]

talked about what people are doing
 - Andrew has people working on web interface
 - and wants to do more refactoring on mg

Tom (here) is doing alioth benchmarks, hopefully along with Alexander Campbell
  noted that Grace benchmarks are here: https://github.com/gracelang/benchmarks

Andrew ran simple set benchmark - set of 16K numbers + test membership + non membership.
   really, really, slow. 

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Tried to talk about dotted classes. Didn’t finally get anywhere. Again.
  preferences: dotted classes: Kim, Michael?
  nondotted classes: Andrew, James
  tim: both
  
 other discussions
  https://projects.cecs.pdx.edu:8443/~black/NewOOL/index.cgi/wiki/DoubleKeywordClassElements
  https://mailhost.cecs.pdx.edu/pipermail/grace-core/2014-November/001716.html

 assuming “class” meant “factory method” (i.e. classes lost their dots) 
  - Kim DOES NOT want people to have to write out object { class new … {} } 
  - Kim DOES want people to invoke   var.new(blah) 
  - look at chapter6 “ProgrammingWithGrace"
 
James will again try to look at chapter 6 to see if there are ways of using modules to address Kim’s concerns. Or not. 

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Next week:

 Multiple Inheritance
 - current proposal is to allow multiple inherits statements,  inherits x as y to name super-objects; y.x for directed resend. 
 - details and discussion here: - https://mailhost.cecs.pdx.edu/pipermail/grace-core/2015-March/001858.html
 - Wellington people will talk and there may be an updated proposal
 
* next topic for discussion: dotted classes revenant? 

* next topic for discussion: Generic syntax
  - current status: “<" “>"  (explicitly) without spaces.
  - potential proposals?
     - shallow option - just switch to “[“ “]”  - loses “[ ]” for other things (indexing, matchfix)
     - deep option - do generics with indexing operator
     - (generalised request option)  - do generics with option “type” parameter